[Langcom] Tentative approval of Shan Wikipedia

[Steven White]

I hereby submit Shan Wikipedia (Wp/shn) to be evaluated for approval. It will need language verification; can someone please work on that? In the meantime, please look it over for provisional approval.

Steven

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[MF-Warburg]

It looks ok-ish to me with regard to the activity.

I suppose André MÌller will know how to find an expert.

Am Fr., 28. Sep. 2018 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Steven White <

Post by Steven White
I hereby submit Shan Wikipedia (Wp/shn) to be evaluated for approval. It
will need language verification; can someone please work on that? In the
meantime, please look it over for provisional approval.
Steven
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[André Müller]

Thanks for the mention!

Yes, it looks good to me, although my Mac has some problems with the "comma
tone", but that's also the case when I write something in Shan. I am
positively surprized about the number of articles and that many of them
aren't just stubs but actually quite long (I don't speak Shan fluently
enough to actually read through an entire long article before getting
tired). I also expected there to be issues with Unicode vs. Zawgyi vs.
other encodings for Shan, because there are several different encodings for
Shan, just like there are for Burmese. The articles are all in Unicode,
great!
However, this also means, that at least in the near future, while Burma is
still a "non-Unicode country", most Shan speakers with laptop and interest
might not be able to write articles.

I can only hope that a Jinghpaw Wikipedia will someday be as
well-progressing.

Best wishes from Zurich,
— André

Am Fr., 5. Okt. 2018 um 19:51 Uhr schrieb MF-Warburg <

Post by MF-Warburg
It looks ok-ish to me with regard to the activity.
I suppose André MÌller will know how to find an expert.
Am Fr., 28. Sep. 2018 um 16:16 Uhr schrieb Steven White <

Post by Steven White
I hereby submit Shan Wikipedia (Wp/shn) to be evaluated for approval. It
will need language verification; can someone please work on that? In the
meantime, please look it over for provisional approval.
Steven
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[Steven White]

I take this to mean that we can move forward with final approval. Just one comment, and one question:

Comment: I can’t formally close this and create the phabricator task until Wednesday, because I didn’t post the public notice on Meta until last Wednesday.
Question: Do I need to say something about the whole coding issue on the approval page and/or in the phabricator task?

Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 03:00:03 +0200
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Thanks for the mention!

Yes, it looks good to me, although my Mac has some problems with the "comma
tone", but that's also the case when I write something in Shan. I am
positively surprized about the number of articles and that many of them
aren't just stubs but actually quite long (I don't speak Shan fluently
enough to actually read through an entire long article before getting
tired). I also expected there to be issues with Unicode vs. Zawgyi vs.
other encodings for Shan, because there are several different encodings for
Shan, just like there are for Burmese. The articles are all in Unicode,
great!
However, this also means, that at least in the near future, while Burma is
still a "non-Unicode country", most Shan speakers with laptop and interest
might not be able to write articles.

I can only hope that a Jinghpaw Wikipedia will someday be as
well-progressing.

Best wishes from Zurich,
— André

[André Müller]

Hmm, I don't think you need to do that probably, as the 'pedia is already
going well and the issue is (as of now) nonexistent. But it might happen
that in the future, Shan speakers might start to add content in different
(Zawgyi) encoding which will be rendered as pseudo-Burmese gibberish in
Unicode. In that case, someone would have to moderate and delete or convert
those articles. There are good converters between Zawgyi and Unicode
Burmese online, and I imagine they could also work for Shan.

— André

Am So., 7. Okt. 2018 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb Steven White <

Post by Steven White
I take this to mean that we can move forward with final approval. Just one
Comment: I can’t formally close this and create the phabricator task until
Wednesday, because I didn’t post the public notice on Meta until last
Wednesday.
Question: Do I need to say something about the whole coding issue on the
approval page and/or in the phabricator task?
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 03:00:03 +0200
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
Subject: Re: [Langcom] Tentative approval of Shan Wikipedia
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Thanks for the mention!
Yes, it looks good to me, although my Mac has some problems with the "comma
tone", but that's also the case when I write something in Shan. I am
positively surprized about the number of articles and that many of them
aren't just stubs but actually quite long (I don't speak Shan fluently
enough to actually read through an entire long article before getting
tired). I also expected there to be issues with Unicode vs. Zawgyi vs.
other encodings for Shan, because there are several different encodings for
Shan, just like there are for Burmese. The articles are all in Unicode,
great!
However, this also means, that at least in the near future, while Burma is
still a "non-Unicode country", most Shan speakers with laptop and interest
might not be able to write articles.
I can only hope that a Jinghpaw Wikipedia will someday be as
well-progressing.
Best wishes from Zurich,
— André
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